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Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
18%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
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e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



icwhs 3:51 Thu Oct 19
Arnautović good read..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4996680/MARKO-ARNAUTOVIC-Mourinho-Balotelli-West-Ham-more.html

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El Scorchio 3:55 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
'Mourinho is there with his staff and he stands up and starts applauding and laughing. He said: "You are my man. You come here five hours before training. I love you! Here, take my watch".

Hahahaha

ludo21 4:14 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
Interesting read... at least he seems to have a decent attitude (better than I imagined anyway!!)

The state of the grass in the first photo. I hope that's not our training pitch!!!

franksfat&slow&wank 4:28 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
brighton at home under the lights

just the sort of match you'd expect someone like him to grab by the horns especially bearing in mind his fee and salary

Jaan Kenbrovin 4:28 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
I like him as a player, but he was never worth paying 27m.

I think he has it in him to win the fans over though, as on his day when fired up he is a right handful and the type our fans appreciate. Not seen as much as a glimpse of that yet, but still...

Your mum 4:33 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
All the personality traits you don't look for, I wouldn't pay £10m for Arnie, let alone £20m!

Hammers1993 4:50 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
The thing is, in todays market is 27 million really that crazy?

Don't get me wrong to us 27 million is 27 million but when transfers go through like 200 million for Neymar it puts it more into perspective. We paid 12 million for Jarvis don't forget! Hopefully Arnie does show more though as that is still a huge amount of money to a club our size.

boleyn8420 5:24 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
1993. Totally agree. All this bollocks about 'he's not worth £27m' what are they on about. Talk about living in the past. Drinkwater £35m. Jonny Evans, quoted at £30m. Iheanacho £25m. Sigurdsson £50m. These are todays transfer fee going rates. So actually we got a bargain at £27m. If we had tied up Cavalho at £39m, that would have also been a bargain as it looks like his price is going up to £60m. Well done the 2 bobs.

Hammers1993 6:04 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
See I can't bring myself to agree with him being a bargain as he hasn't shown anything.. YET. 27 million is still a huge outlay but as you correctly pointed out, Sigurdsson another one, going for 50 million really does put transfer fees in prospective, it isn't like it was even 6/7 years ago.

With the run of games coming up hopefully he shows something, starting tomorrow.

Jaan Kenbrovin 6:09 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
You've just picked a load of players that went for inflated prices - Plenty of examples where clubs have bought players shrewdly, without a ridiculous mark up like most of shit you mentioned.

This is where I think we fail in the transfer market time and time again. Rather than scout well and pick up rising talent, we want to flex our muscles buying the best of today's performers - then end up with deadwood we can't shift as they have dropped from the limelight and clubs won't pick up their inflated wages.

Hammers1993 6:12 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
That's obviously not the case though is it? We picked Payet up for 10 mil for one.....

Private Dancer 6:13 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
''So actually we got a bargain at £27m.''

A bargain?? So if he carries on playing shit he's been a bargain?

Hammers1993 6:13 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
Players being in the prem under the age of 30 you pay a premium for now. It is just the way things have gone with all the TV revenue money bumping everything up having a knock on effect.

Hammers1993 6:14 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
Yeah he definitely isn't a bargain to whoever said that.

Didn't he break our record transfer fee as well?

gph 7:08 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
I'm sure he doesn't go around looking for fights anymore.

I'm also sure that any opposition player who winds up their man will redouble their efforts after reading that piece.

tnb 8:48 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
We've been doing this for a while now. Because we have a board who speak first and act second, and value PR over everything, we worry too much about how something will look. Gold and Sullivan would have been worried that if we'd signed more under the radar players it wouldn't have been seen as ambitious enough, so instead they set out to spend big but when they find we can't attract players who are really worth big money or that what counts as big money has left them behind we decide to go and spend what we can anyway because that fulfils some kind of promise/ wish fulfilment.

End result is you want to spend a club record fee but Bacca, Lacazette etc won't come so instead of thinking again you spend it on Ayew, then Arnautovic. You think it would look good to say you've signed a European Championship winner and you end up with one barely anyone else wanted in Fonte. And so on.

You have to know what market you're shopping in and make it realistic to your means and profile. That's how you gradually progress. We haven't got a clue what we're doing or what we want right now and haven't for a while.

You end up with neither value in terms of a bargain or value in terms of a top quality player. The Icelandics were the same - they wanted to splurge money and yet the only players they could attract were the likes of Dyer so we went and splurged money on him anyway.

It's like telling all your mates you're going to buy a 40 grand car but you can't find one you like so you spend 40 grand on a Mondeo just so you can say you spent it.

Takashi Miike 8:53 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
still early days so I'm hoping he settles in and starts playing well

HairyHammer 9:58 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
He would be awesome if space was given but sadly he is playing in one of the toughest and most physical leagues in the world and in my opinion can only be effective against the lesser teams and even that is no guarantee.

I hope he proves me wrong because without doubt he has potential, sadly I think he is not Intelligent enough as a player either. in other words he could play it a bit more simple and play better passes instead of his occasional intricacy and wish to pass players.

HairyHammer 10:01 Thu Oct 19
Re: Arnautović good read..
It is as Takashi say's below a bit early to look upon him as dead wood which I sort of did, maybe he just needs some time to settle.

brick_lane_batty_boy 8:55 Fri Oct 20
Re: Arnautović good read..
These articles on Arnautovic and Hernandez are ridiculous. We've played 8 league games for fucks sake. Far too early to say it's not working, they're not working, they're failures.

Just let him get on with playing. His quality will shine through

Sven Roeder 9:06 Fri Oct 20
Re: Arnautović good read..
We have played 8 PL games and he has missed at least 2 of those due to his stupidity at Southampton
The time period that people give new players and managers these days is ludicrous

Sometimes these things just eventually click into place.
If the cunt of a ref had given him a pen against Spurs that may have been the trigger.
Hopefully he does the business tonight and is up and running.

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